[NukeNet] [no-new-nukes-yall] Duke caught californicating ohio
Minimushomines at aol.com
Minimushomines at aol.com
Sat Jan 19 21:34:50 EST 2008
Hey Roger,
Don't fret. We are doing what you suggest and have been for quite some time.
Below is the final page from a four page letter/petition we sent to
Florida's Gov. Crist and just about anyone else in Florida occupying an energy policy
making position. It was sent July 9, 07 just prior to the Gov's climate
summit. I've been attending energy commission meetings and the like all year
advocating for clean energy and sustainability. Don't want to boar you with all
we've been doing.
Let me know what you think of our advocacy position.
Please skip over the following and proceed to We advocate: if your not in the
mood for a rant on the Florida situation.
Also my wife Jan and I, as FP&L customers, have intervened in the FP&L
double barrel turkey point nuclear proposal that is now in front of the Florida
Public Service Commission. We are the only ones intervening against the project
in favor of clean energy.
The BIG E's let it pass. They've been singing a big antinuke song but
haven't put their money and lawyers where their mouths are and sure haven't been
helping us. Don't want help from the, corporate, institutionalized
environmentalists. I suppose they'll be jumping in at a later stage and to be fair some
of their members have been speaking up at hearings in the county where FP&L
wants to put it, Dade county, Miami.
Jan and I don't trust the motives of a number of what we consider to be
pseudo environmental groups we have here in FL. and refuse to be identified with
people who sometimes unfortunately become associated with them. We won't go
along to get along. We're true grass roots environmentalists without the seeds
and stems.
So we're it for now. Jan and I and all the knowledge we've accumulated on
sustainable living over the past 38+ years from the right people in the 70's
through the 80's and more recently through info we get on list serves like this
one and e-mail contacts we have from around the world. Thanks GAIA, GRRN
Bill first, The Dines, MIKE, Alan, Carol, Nancy and many others who SUPPORT true
grass roots efforts without intrusion and overriding self interested
expectations.
To end on a positive note, which I do prefer: your e-mail is timely. We're
planing to ask interested anti nuke grass roots people to take a bite of a
specific part of the FP&L project. I'll explain tomorrow. Bob
We advocate:
1) The creation of a complete profile of each and every energy saving or
energy producing option available to the People of the State of Florida. These
analytical profiles must provide “cradle to grave” detailed information on
the energy input/output ratio, cost/benefit analysis, full cost accounting (to
include disposal or recycling of byproducts and the product itself), health
and environmental impact analysis for all options. The profile would give
detailed information from the point where the fuel for any given technology or
the materials for any given energy related product are extracted to the point
where the power is created or saved. Building design, lighting, appliances;
subterranean temperature exchange systems, solar, wind, ocean current, other
clean renewables; transportation options and fuels; coal (of any technology),
Mixed Municipal Solid Waste to Energy burners (of any type), Nuclear, or Gas
(synthetic or natural), represent some of the options to be profiled.
2) The performance of a thorough comparative analysis of all the profiled
options, providing for a clear understanding of the unique characteristics of
each option. This will allow for a determination to be made as to the various
options relative values in terms of costs/ benefits, effectiveness,
efficiencies, health and environmental impacts, etcetera.
3) The establishment of a hierarchal listing of the options, putting the
most efficient, least polluting first then listing the clean truly renewable
energy generating options next and so on.
4) The development of an action plan to schedule the implementation of each
option as listed on the hierarchy list, most efficient, least polluting
first, each option being fully implemented to the greatest degree possible before
moving on to the next until there is no further need to implement those
remaining.
5) The establishment of a temporary moratorium on the construction of any
new or expanded polluting power generating facility. This would stand until the
aforementioned processes have been carried out and it is determined how the
State will proceed.
Respectfully,
For The Florida Alliance for a Clean Environment
Bob Krasowski
President, Project coordinator,
_Alliance4Cleanfl at aol.com_ (mailto:Alliance4Cleanfl at aol.com)
239-963-6285
In a message dated 1/19/2008 7:11:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rogerh at energy-net.org writes:
NukeNet Anti-Nuclear Network (nukenet at energyjustice.net)
The area I'm growing the most concerned about is our failure to push
fuel-cycle and uranium mining impacts.
EWG recently _published a report_
(http://www.ewg.org/sites/mining_google/us/analysis.php) on the 500 plus new uranium mining claims now surrounding the
Grand Canyon. We have thousands of abandoned uranium mines (145 billion cubic
yards of uranium ore tailings), mostly on indigenous lands that are
destroying the environement. The DOE has acknowledged the cleanup of some 26 mines
at a cost of $1.5 billion. A NYT article in 1989 documented a $9 billion
handout to the uranium mining companies, just prior to its collapse and our
shift to buying Russian Mox fuel.
Indigenous communities are on record opposing any further uranium mining.
Why aren't we focussing on developing a complete anaylsis of the entire
fuel-cycle and placing this on the table for why nuclear is such a terrible option?
PBS has been running a series called e squared and it is giving nuclear a
huge push, with no real serious analysis.
It has focussed its entire angle on the PBMR being proposed in Utah, took che
ap shots at wind and left the pronuclear piece for the last, in the classic
"can't disconnect from any options" finale.
The UC renewables proponent that they used is actually pronuclear, and is
being set up more and more as the renewables guy that will always be willing to
say that nuclear power needs to be on the table.
The E (2) squared website at PBS needs a bunch of visitors over there to
start questioning their almost blankcheck on nuclear
_beckers at thegrid.net_ (mailto:beckers at thegrid.net) wrote:
Perhaps each state should call for what California is doing right - a full
cradle to grave cost, benefit and risk analysis of the state's reliance on
aging reactors. While we are making strides, California still has a long way to
go to rid itself of its energy debacle.
In Peace
Rochelle
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Howell
Sent: Jan 19, 2008 1:11 PM
To: Mary Olson To: Ma
Subject: RE: [no-new-nukes-Subject: RE: [no-new-nukes-<WBR>yall] [Fwd:
Hmmm] D
If you do a Google search with the title of an article, you can sometimes
find the source of the article. The article may have come originally from the
Dayton Daily News, which has a longer article on the subject. Your version of
the article might have been summarized from the Dayton paper's article, which
can be found at:
_http://www.daytondahttp://www.dhttp://wwwhttp://wwhttp://www.dayhttp://www.http://www.daytohttp://wwhttp://www&cxsvc=7&cxcat=2_
(http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/business/2008/01/18/mj011808duke
lawsuit.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=2)
The Dayton Daily News article mentions an ex-manager who claims to have been
fired after asking about large payments by Duke to large commercial and
industrial customers.
Tom Howell
----- Original Message -----
From: _Mary Olson_ (mailto:nirs at main.nc.us)
To: _nnn_ (mailto:no-new-nukes-yall at yahoogroups.com)
Sent: 1/19/2008 12:20:52 PM
Subject: [no-new-nukes- [no-new-nukes-<WBR>yall] [Fwd: Hmmm] Duke caught
Ok, I used to live in Oregon...and out there it was not a swear word -- it
was a statement of resistance!
Nonetheless, Duke Energy was part of the screwing of California's electric
power viability during the early 2000's...looks like they are still at the
hanky panky!
-- Mary Olson
PS sorry the clip came to me without source...
Duke Energy accused of kickbacks
Staff reports
January 18, 2008 12:15 am
A federal lawsuit accuses Charlotte-based Duke Energy Corp. of paying
kickbacks to big companies in the Cincinnati area to win their support for a rate
increase that has cost small businesses and homeowners millions of dollars.
Lawyers who filed the suit Wednesday said Duke has paid as much as $100
million in rebates since 2004 to its biggest customers as part of the scheme.
"They were running a rebate program to the detriment of every other
consumer,” said Stan Chesley, one of the lawyers who filed the suit.
Chesley said the companies, which have not been identified, began receiving
payments in 2004 through a sham company set up by Duke.
Duke released a statement Thursday denying the allegations. The utility
company said the contracts with the large companies were the subject of extensive
litigation before the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio, which approved
Duke’s rates after reviewing the agreements.
Duke said PUCO determined that parts of the contracts should remain
confidential, and Duke will not comment further on them or on the pending lawsuit.
____________________________________
You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do
nothing, there will be no result. – Mahatma Gandhi
In Peace
Rochelle Becker, Executive Director
Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility
_www.a4nr.org_ (http://www.a4nr.org/)
PO 1328
San Luis Obispo, Ca 93406-1328
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